karma comes first, God comes next

Started by Virinchi, May 05, 2009, 06:20:45 PM

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Virinchi

This is fact.

Whether we pray to god or not, whether we perform remedies like wearing gemstones, crystal healing, reiki, chanting mantras etc, karma will give us what it has to, or rather what we deserve.
Even consulting an astrologer, palmist,pyschic/tarot reader will happen only when karma decides.
According to astrology, the ruling planets (moon sign owner, day owner, ascedent owner, owner of constellation in which moon is placed) match to the ruling planets at your time of birth.
This rule of Hora Astrology itself proves that karma takes its toll when it has to.
You will only know when you have to know. Before that you will meet people who will misguide you. Again this is controlled by karma.
God acts as an agent through planets,humans around us, etc, giving us results of our karma.

This is not to discourage anyone trying to perform remedies to control their problems, but to emphasize that remedies are like umbrellas trying to protect us from karmic influences like sun,rain etc.
But if our bad karma is more stronger, it can cause heavy wind which can take away our umbrella.
Everything depends on balancing equations of karma. If good karma is more than bad karma, we enjoy comforts and vice versa.

Only in exceptional cases god decides to overtake karmic influences for his/her devotee but it will happen for thos who have reached peaks in devotion and have completely surrendered to god.
Rest all have to pass through karma and its effects.
Wanting to learn vast ranged Astrology only to predict few sport events is like Marrying only for Sex !

The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually fearing you will make one !

DCP

if GOD is just and agent to give us results of karma thru planets, they why worship him?
why not just do good karma and get good results ?

whay GOd in between

Samantha

good question
i always had a thought that GOD is a cheater
he\'s just made us slaves to this karma and expecting us to worship to get relief

Shalu

i think thats why swami vivekananda said it right : you are not sinner, its God who is sinner and a traitor

JayTee

its a slavery chain
if you want to escape from it you need god, else just karma will result in subsequent life and results

Sharmila

 i believe in \"No problem is so big and difficult that it can\'t be blamed on somebody else.\"

maybe god believe in -- \"Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.\"

:smilegrin:

Star Dust

God usually wont interfere in our present karma.
he\'ll watch us go thru them
only in few rare cases of highest form of devoties has god interfered in their excess negative karma and relieved them
so worship ! to reach that stage where u can bring him down for u
In a day..when u dont come across any problems... you can be sure that you are traveling in wrong path - SWAMI VIVEKANANDA

JayTee

whatever comes first or last, its imp. to do karma without any attachment or thought about its result

Virinchi

it was said by many, in so many generations by so many incarnations but still people chose to live in ignorance
if people were smart enough god doesnt have needed so many incarnations to tell same thing again and again
Wanting to learn vast ranged Astrology only to predict few sport events is like Marrying only for Sex !

The greatest mistake you can make in life is to be continually fearing you will make one !

Ravi Varma

many people will not believe but actually worshipping god will not clear your bad karma
prayers and remedies are only for our satisfaction