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Title: KP Discussions
Post by: shadow on November 04, 2010, 06:58:46 AM
I think we need a topic dedicated to KP discussions..or is there one already ?

while reading these books I have several doubts and believe others can enlighten from what they learned
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: LEO on November 04, 2010, 04:41:41 PM
i guess you can open threads with individual points to discus
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: shadow on November 04, 2010, 07:03:01 PM
I though it would be useful if it is not mixed in the queries and will act as reference later to others..what do you say ?
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: Samantha on November 05, 2010, 05:21:59 PM
then how do you wan to start this
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: Seetaram on November 06, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
i wont advise you on trying to learn astrology deeply because its too vast and complicated and also its not your profession.
I had to dedicate years to understand this after i read almost 10000 charts personally and then quit because i realised nothing can be changed.
people who meet an astrologer expect him/her to change their lives which cannot happen in 99% cases.

I\'ve a computer but i dont try to understand how it functions.
i just learn how to use it to browse internet etc stuff.

same should apply to you.
you can try to have basic understanding of planets and your chart but when you try to go deep into it, things get complicated.

if you are already reading those books, that means you\'re already into doubts.
so you can discus them for your knowledge rather than try to help the world at this stage
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: coconutberg on November 06, 2010, 08:09:49 PM
[rquote=6759&topic=1098&author=Samantha]then how do you wan to start this[/rquote]

May I start by saying that i\'m new to KP astrology. I\'ve just read this nice article https://www.astrogle.com/astrology/birth-time-rectification-through-k-p-astrology.html  which makes a whole lot of sense to me (and also deals with rectifying birth time which is something i\'m trying to do for myself), but there was one term i didn\'t quite understand: the \"sub lord\". or as the author writes: \"According to the principles of K.P., a planets position, linkages and effects are determined by the Sign, Constellation and Subdivision of the Constellation (popularly called as ‘sub’) that it occupies
at a particular time\".  later he changed the three factors to: sign lod, star lord, and sub lord.  now, i understood that \'star lord\' means the nakshatra lord (please correct me if i\'m wrong), but i couldn\'t understand what is the \'sub lord\', or, more specifically, what is the \'sub\'/subdivision of the constellation? he\'s not referring to the nakshatra here (since this is the \'star lord\', so what does he mean?  no way to contact the author of the article, so could anyone please throw light on this?
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: coconutberg on November 06, 2010, 09:15:00 PM
[rquote=6763&topic=1098&author=coconutberg][rquote=6759&topic=1098&author=Samantha]then how do you wan to start this[/rquote]

May I start by saying that i\'m new to KP astrology. I\'ve just read this nice article https://www.astrogle.com/astrology/birth-time-rectification-through-k-p-astrology.html  which makes a whole lot of sense to me (and also deals with rectifying birth time which is something i\'m trying to do for myself), but there was one term i didn\'t quite understand: the \"sub lord\". or as the author writes: \"According to the principles of K.P., a planets position, linkages and effects are determined by the Sign, Constellation and Subdivision of the Constellation (popularly called as ‘sub’) that it occupies
at a particular time\".  later he changed the three factors to: sign lod, star lord, and sub lord.  now, i understood that \'star lord\' means the nakshatra lord (please correct me if i\'m wrong), but i couldn\'t understand what is the \'sub lord\', or, more specifically, what is the \'sub\'/subdivision of the constellation? he\'s not referring to the nakshatra here (since this is the \'star lord\', so what does he mean?  no way to contact the author of the article, so could anyone please throw light on this? [/rquote]

shwoops, I guess I made the newbie mistake of barging in too quickly with my question, since a little after asking it i saw that there\'s a little tab in the JHora software with the letters KP on it, which indeed gives the results for sub-lord for planets and cusps.

So after trying the method suggested in the article it puts my birth time a little further than the range i had expected.

since i have no idea who the author of the article is and how to contact her/him, can anyone here vouch for the authenticity of the method presented in the said article, or have at least rectified their own birth time with accordance to it?

if not, could you direct me to a clear article which explain how to rectify the birth time according to KP method?
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: shadow on November 10, 2010, 07:29:32 AM
[rquote=6759&topic=1098&author=Samantha]then how do you wan to start this[/rquote]

I guess it could be a separate topic by itself or sub topic under astrology discussions (if that is possible)
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: shadow on November 10, 2010, 07:33:54 AM
[rquote=6760&topic=1098&author=Seetaram]i wont advise you on trying to learn astrology deeply because its too vast and complicated and also its not your profession.
I had to dedicate years to understand this after i read almost 10000 charts personally and then quit because i realised nothing can be changed.
people who meet an astrologer expect him/her to change their lives which cannot happen in 99% cases.

I\'ve a computer but i dont try to understand how it functions.
i just learn how to use it to browse internet etc stuff.

same should apply to you.
you can try to have basic understanding of planets and your chart but when you try to go deep into it, things get complicated.

if you are already reading those books, that means you\'re already into doubts.
so you can discus them for your knowledge rather than try to help the world at this stage[/rquote]

Seetaramji

I have no doubt that I am traveling and exploring same path like you and others did. But sometimes I feel getting to know little detail is as harmful as not knowing it at all. I only hope that this discussions are kept at scientific level then  it would be great. I hear what you are saying, but it is up to the individual to dwell and explore the deepest parts of any subject. In my case, I am an enthusiast who like to know as much as I can..
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: Ravi Varma on December 02, 2010, 04:33:43 PM
what happened to discussions ?
i think research articles written in main site are sufficient.
Only doubts can be discussed here
Title: Seniors please clear some of my basic doubts in k.p astrology
Post by: okkadu17in on December 07, 2011, 06:52:02 PM
respected seniors my questions are about nodes guruji mentiond that rahu and ketu acts as agent to the planets which they conjoined my questin is which planet has to be considerd when it is conjoined with two or more planets in the house? When there is no conjunction with any planet what is aspecting mean? i cant understand this word. . .my another question is if venus is the 1st cusp sublord occupying 8th house and in the constellation owned by mars should i read the matters directly of 8th house or should i consider the matters of constellatin lord mars  which is occupying some other house. . .and last question is if rahu or ketu in conjuction with retrograde planet in a house matters wont materialize in favourable way is it true? What if rahu or ketu in conjuction with two or more planets in which one of the planet is retrograde? . . .my questions are very basic seniors please clarify my doubts. . .thank you
Title: here is your reply
Post by: Seetaram on December 08, 2011, 12:48:09 PM
you are only following some online material about k.p, which are incomplete

get K.P readers I , II & III books and read them thoroughly
your questions are very very basic and answers can be found in those books.

there is difference between teaching and discussing
Title: here is your reply
Post by: gauranggroups on December 08, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
@okkadu17in,

To add with what Mr.Seetaram said, try to get them (KP Readers) in your mother tongue edition so that it\'ll be easy for you to understand. From your message, it\'s clearly visible that you are finding very hard to get the terminologies. Hence read them in the language which you can understand very well.

All the Best!
Title: here is your reply
Post by: okkadu17in on December 08, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
im not following any online material bought kp six readers 1 month ago in english cant undrstand litle a bit so asked. . .in a suggestion time u guys can give answer to my doubts  any how thanks
Title: here is your reply
Post by: Srikanth on December 08, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
yeah, what gaurang said is right.
if you are not understanding basic terms like \'aspect of planets\', then its hard to explain complicated things.
k.p books are available in tamil, telugu etc indian languages.

if you get your basics from them like jupiter aspects 5,7,9.
saturn 3,7,10
mars 4,7,8

etc...

as seetaram said it, this is discussion forum , not teaching forum
Title: here is your reply
Post by: okkadu17in on December 08, 2011, 07:57:01 PM
ok where should i post my msg if i want to learn something    
Title: here is your reply
Post by: Srikanth on December 08, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
for learning, consulting a guru personally or reading books and discussing personally with some astrologer is best.
online forums are not suitable for that.

also first check your own horoscope, if you have ability to learn astrology or not.
Or consult an astrologer, who can tell you that
Title: here is your reply
Post by: gauranggroups on December 08, 2011, 11:27:59 PM
@okkadu17in,

What\'s your mother tongue? Tell us that. We\'ll try to guide you based on that. I guess it should be Telugu, Right?

Regarding your doubt.. Here \"Aspect\" colloquially means \"See\".. All the Planets will aspect their 7th house from where they are posited. But three planets have special aspects. They are Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Mars aspects 4th & 8th houses along with 7, which is usual for all the planets. Jupiter aspects houses 5, 7 & 9. Saturn aspects houses 3, 7 & 10.

All the Best!
Title: here is your reply
Post by: rudra on December 08, 2011, 11:39:56 PM
Hi,

See, Rahu and Ketu are treated differently as follows...

1) Rahu/Ketu will mainly give results of all the planets aspecting it e.g Saturn -> 3, 7 and 10, Jupiter --> 5,7 and 9, Mars --> 4, 7 and 8. All other planets will aspect with their 7th drishti. Aspecting means the planets are having their drishti on Rahu/Ketu.

2) Rahu/Ketu will then give results of all the planets which are in Yuti i.e conjunction with them. KP says 4 degrees conjunction, traditional astrology says 8 degrees.

3) Rahu/Ketu will then give result of its Nakshatra (star lord)

4) Lastly, Rahu/Ketu will give result of the rashi lord in which they r located. While finding the rashi in which Rahu/Ketu is deposited one should not use cusp but according to normal lagn kundali.


I hope this solves your query.

Regards,
Rudra
Title: here is your reply
Post by: gauranggroups on December 09, 2011, 01:12:01 AM
The answer for the another question you asked which is highlighted in the quote is..

If Venus is the 1st cusp sub-lord and occupies the 8th house and in the constellation of Mars, you should see where Mars is posited and which are the houses owned by Mars. Based on that only, you can predict. Venus will give the result of Mars in __house (predominantly) and the owner of __ and __houses.

[rquote=11666&topic=1643&author=okkadu17in]respected seniors my questions are about nodes guruji mentiond that rahu and ketu acts as agent to the planets which they conjoined my questin is which planet has to be considerd when it is conjoined with two or more planets in the house? When there is no conjunction with any planet what is aspecting mean? i cant understand this word. . .my another question is if venus is the 1st cusp sublord occupying 8th house and in the constellation owned by mars should i read the matters directly of 8th house or should i consider the matters of constellatin lord mars  which is occupying some other house. . .and last question is if rahu or ketu in conjuction with retrograde planet in a house matters wont materialize in favourable way is it true? What if rahu or ketu in conjuction with two or more planets in which one of the planet is retrograde? . . .my questions are very basic seniors please clarify my doubts. . .thank you[/rquote]
Title: here is your reply
Post by: okkadu17in on December 09, 2011, 12:57:16 PM
thank u so much  gaurang and rudra. . . yes my mother tongue is telugu gaurang bhai got clarity about everything except the \'aspecting\' please wil u please clear that in telugu please  
Title: here is your reply
Post by: chkasarma on December 09, 2011, 02:58:33 PM
Aspecting means \"Drushti/Drishti\" in Sanskrit .In Telugu, \"Chudatamu/Chuchuta\". Gaurang mentioned the same in English \"To see\"
For instance Guru aspecting Shani means.....Guruvu Shani ni Chusthunnadu....

LOL..It seems it\'s a language class (no offence plz)
Title: here is your reply
Post by: okkadu17in on December 09, 2011, 06:40:38 PM
i got the meaning of the word aspecting my question is how each planet aspects with nodes and why?please this is my last doubt i wont ask any more seniors are getting angry i think sorry.
Title: here is your reply
Post by: rudra on December 10, 2011, 01:40:07 AM
each planet will aspect the nodes just like they will aspect any other planet.....just that, when you check the aspects,use normal lagna kundali and NOT cusp kundali.


Regards,
Rudra
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: okkadu17in on September 03, 2012, 06:36:37 PM
if there is no planet in jupiter owned stars then it is called self strength planet significations will change....my question is how to read results of a self strength planet when it is in the star of a rahu or ketu?
Title: KP Discussions
Post by: N Murthy on April 11, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
if there is no planet in jupiter owned stars then it is called self strength planet significations will change....my question is how to read results of a self strength planet when it is in the star of a rahu or ketu?

take the sign lord of rahu or ketu.
study their significations and pass them to jupiter.
here significations means - ownership and placement.