« on: February 07, 2012, 08:26:02 PM »
Thanks for your answer. But still, I believe that one should not put a re-direction in place of an answer. My question to you was simple...I gave one analogy of a person ABC. If your humble answer to that analogy question is that I should go and read tripura rahasya then I think its unfair. Its like, telling a person to go and study KP astrology when that person had come to you for predictions. If you have indeed read (and understood Tripura Rahsya) then you can easily answer this analogy. I believe my question was very very simple and answer to it should not be a re-direction to tripura rahasya.
Self Realization, which you said should also be fixed and there will be a specific time scheduled for it. We all are images of God is correct, we forget why we took birth on this planet is also correct, but if at all we have taken birth now to face the music of all our deeds and we will be given no freewill now as we already have exahusted all of it in some of our initial births then this is not digestable. Birth of animals, all of them, have a fixed nature of life . They have absolutely no chance of getting liberated in that yoni. But the fact that one takes birth of a human directly means that gates of salvation have opened for us, yes, we have many things which we see as fixed but its just because we dont know the correct way to alter them...we usually use our will power which always fails. Simply because our will comes from our brain. Our brain is behaves as per our prarabdha.
There is one shloke in sanskrit \"Buddhi karma-nu-sarini\". This explains why \"vinash-kaal-vipirat-buddhi\". Thus applying logic or tricks or using will power will not alter the future.
I will like to quote here one line from Tripura Rahsya which is translated into English by SWAMI SRI RAMANANANDA SARASWATHI.
\"62. The current notion that one cannot escape one’s
destiny is applicable only to weak-minded and senseless
Thus tripura rahasya itself says what it says.
If you really feel that our lives are fully fixed and we dont have any freewill left, then the concept of right way and wrong way loose significance....because for us it does not matter which was we choose in life, right or wrong...as that way is already fixed for us.
I am really not trying to annoy you here, but please understand that we are humans, only humans are qualified for final liberation as per our shastras. Why? Why only humans and not animals...in fact animals perfectly obey their duties and unlike humans they never break the natural laws. Humans have been given ability to judge, think, and act. We have been sent here to pay for our past deeds as well as enjoy the good deeds. But we do have a freewill which is definitely restricted. But even using that restricted free will once can get liberated.
If what you say is fully true then our Moksha is also fixed.....so if you want to attan Moksha in this life then you will never get it as it was not written in your fate.....this means that all our shastras, which say that we should behave nicely with every one and do good deeds, is false. Since how we behave and what deeds we perform is already fixed..then how can we say that we deserve a place in heaven, hell or moksha as it ws already fixed. Why will Krishna say in 18th adhyaya in Gita that one should leave all relegions and surrender to him? If everything was fixed then surrendering or not surrendering to Krishna should also be fixed, thus our liberation is also fixed. In that case life becomes like a hard coded computer program.
Anyways, please try to answer my question about the person ABC, this will help every one I believe.
[rquote=12098&topic=1600&author=JayTee]the ultimate reality in philosphy is that god and we are not seperate entities.
Its just one soul creating multiple images of itself and acting as different beings in this creation.
And that is advaita.
so, your idea of blaming god will fail there bcos you are also god and you made a choice to be like this (its just that you forgot what was planned before you came to earth)
by the time you understand this \'reality\', you have nothing much to do on earth.
and by the time you \'experience\' this \'reality\', you\'ll leave thise planet.
thats why someone asked you to read and \'understand\' tripura rahasya in some other post.
souls on earth are not matured to same level, so one answer will not satisfy all of them.
each one needs to be told differently and public forums are not right place(as people start generalising each statement)
consult a guru personally if you dont follow tripura rahasya while reading it, or if you cant read it[/rquote]