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Title: what do people in india think of saibaba and guruji art of living ?
Post by: angeldust on April 04, 2009, 03:24:26 AM
i think that sudarshankria is effective to calm u down,but i get the num feeling like nothn matters its not like it motivates me much to be a better person or utilize my very best characteristics in my daily life functioning
i find my strenght elsewhere .what is the purpose of mediation really
longer life like we who are not from india tend to believe?
Title: Fake Babas and Gurus
Post by: DCP on April 04, 2009, 03:55:32 PM
hi angeldust
i dint understand you clearly

meditation is not exactly for longer life(nobody can guarantee 100 yrs life, as we may die in an accident too)

pranayaama is certainly for helathy body and mind which can give you longer diseaseless life

but indian philosophy was different in (G)olden days
just to live for 100+ years is no use
living with a purpose was the motto

all those techniques and practices which make you numb are useless.
quit them and pick those which can motivate you

unfortunately over past 100 years so many gurus have evolved in india who mislead this generation towars inactivity

we\'re right now trying to bring things back on right track

for more about how and why to meditate, keep watching this site
Title: Fake Babas and Gurus
Post by: Apparao on April 06, 2009, 07:46:18 PM
saibaba is treated as GOD or incarnation in india

but who is the art of living fake guru, who makes you numb
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Post by: SaSirEkha on April 07, 2009, 10:11:59 AM
hi
i think that art of living ravishankar , kalki bhagawan etc are all useless to this generation.
we dont need gurus who make us numb through useless and timewasting processes

we need motivating gurus like swami vivekananda
Title: Fake Babas and Gurus
Post by: DCP on April 10, 2009, 11:30:59 AM
i dont know much about other gurus but saibaba is most worshipped diety in india
i never felt numb
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Post by: Virinchi on April 10, 2009, 07:27:04 PM
advantage of hinduism is you have choice of GODs to worship according to the kinda energy you need
Overall energy is ONE but through different mantras, yantras, dieties it is distributed to humans differently based on their needs

If you feel numb with saibaba or any other gurus, leave them and follow high energy gods like hanuman who will pump you up
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Post by: Ranjana on April 13, 2009, 03:49:36 PM
thats good explanation Virinchi
for people who dont understand why hindus have so many dieties, this is the perfect ans
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Post by: poori on April 24, 2009, 06:21:09 PM
yes... i feel trash of this guruji lechures or art of living courses. they say some rubbish abt life as we dnt know. thr final conclusion is to provoke ppl for meditation n practice some yoga postures... dnt get attracted to such dumb programs.

well i believe in sai baba since from my 3rd yr. he always appears to me in dreams or by any signs n advices me. he always intimates me my upcoming prob n thr solutions... i trust  his powers... hes the most reliable god.
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Post by: Apparao on April 24, 2009, 06:31:47 PM
no GURU was ever accepted totally as incarnation of GOD as long as he was alive
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Post by: DCP on May 06, 2009, 05:45:48 PM
yeah
even saibaba was questioned
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Post by: pallavi on May 08, 2009, 11:26:19 AM
i think fake babas like kalki bhagawan, bala sai baba, sundara chaitanya, few sex maniacs in gujrat brought down the name and respect of other genuine gurus
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Post by: Aindrita Ray on June 26, 2009, 12:38:28 PM
i believe in baba
he saved me out many times but still i dont feel attached to him strangely
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Post by: Shalu on March 03, 2010, 04:00:06 PM
which saibaba are you referring to ?
there are many out there these days
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Post by: Star Dust on March 18, 2010, 12:40:25 PM
recently many fake swamis and babas were exposed to media
nityananda, kalki bhagawan etc have brought shame to the word \'GURU\'
people blindly follow such idiots and make them more than god
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Post by: OMkaar on March 18, 2010, 05:59:23 PM
people need to blame themselves for believing such morons
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Post by: pravin kumar on March 18, 2010, 06:47:00 PM
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Dear Friends,

If you are truthful and honest and lead a spiritual life you will always come across the right Saint. Why do people flock to such Saints? It is only because these Saints make tall promises and one expects immediate relief from their problems. You too can become such a Saint by reading some spiritual books and have little knowledge of Astrology/Palmistry/Numerology and some Magic etc. etc. and can fool lakhs of people. So if our mind and heart is clear and we are ready to meet the right Guru, Guru will automatically appear in your life. In fact real Gurus and Sadgurus are themselves in search of such persons for it is their Duty to draw us to HIM in this world.

Women are instantly attracted to false Saints. My Sadguru always said that a Woman\'s Husband is her Guru. If you are tempted to a woman whichever way then you are anything but a spiritual person. Once one reaches that high state that a real Guru/Sadguru reach then women and men are all one for them. Every human being becomes children of God and they are attracted to your souls than to yourself. They try to purify your soul so that you may go merge with HIM. Merging of Atman with Parmatman.

Pravin Kumar

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Post by: Ravi Varma on March 24, 2010, 10:19:30 PM
all those mentioned above practiced occult and have controlled few energitic spirits.
for example saibaba of puttaparti has control over 10 such spirits whom he will be using to get BIG works done.
so, all BIG industrialists and politicians will get thei BIG works done through him and use his ashram for settling their deals.

Infact these babas possess more black money than politicians themselves
you\'ll normally see that before elections etc, these babas ashrams get silent because only politicians are allowed.
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Post by: Ranjana on March 25, 2010, 11:13:07 AM
thats interesting !
never felt these babas are godly
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Post by: pravin kumar on March 25, 2010, 10:08:21 PM
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Ranjanaji,

A True Devotee -- Guru -- Sadguru has nothing to do with Politicians. They won\'t even welcome them and if a politician of a very high status visits them, these Saints simply vanish temporarily. My Sadguru, it is said, avoided meeting Indiraji, feining illness, at other times when politicians came, he knew in advance and would go away for 5/6 hours with his devotees to far off place and return back once the person has come and left. Once you get involved with a politician then you see the result of Chandraswami, Saccha Sauda Sects in Sirsa, Asa Ram Bapu and so on and so forth. If you are not involved with them you are safe and sound.

These Saints have the powers which you can not even dream. They are as good as God\'s representative with miraculous powers to do anything but they rarely do it as that would frighten others. I have mentioned elsewhere that once 14 Dacoits came to attack my Beloved Sadguru, with guns to rob HIM or his 500 Sets of Silver Plates, spoons, glasses and Katoris. HE told his followers to hide immediately in another room. The Dacoits asked my Sadguru to hand over all those silver utensils. HE said how HE could have such costly things. As the Dacoits pointed gun at HIM in a moment HE transformed into 14 Babas with thick sticks in their hand and started beating these Dacoits. Afterwards when the dacoits asked forgivance HE offered them food in those same utensils and ask them to take it away. Do you think Dacoits would dare take away the utensils? So when you meet a genuine person you will know the difference otherwise you will keep doubting who is right and who is wrong.

Pravin Kumar
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Post by: Sushma on March 25, 2010, 10:14:05 PM
i wish i could meet such TRUE guru in my life
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Post by: pravin kumar on March 25, 2010, 10:18:39 PM
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Sushmaji,

When you are ready to meet them and your Desire is Great definitely they will present themselves before you or you may be taken to see them by someone or by chance you come across them for True Saints are always in search of people to take them nearer to God. That is their work in this world. They never accept any money nor anything else. Even the prasad etc. given is distributed to others. This is the true sign. They do not wear much clothes for they have no attachment to these and they have always love for all in their heart and if anyone goes to them they are there at the service of mankind but there are many people who just want their work done and are not interested in knowing about God and HIS creation.

Pravin Kumar
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Post by: Sushma on March 25, 2010, 10:20:29 PM
thanks pravin ji
i\'m waiting for that day to come
may be most of us are too much engaged in materialistic life that we never \'get ready\' to meet \'real guru\'
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Post by: Star Dust on May 31, 2010, 02:16:47 PM
if he was genuine guru why would someone fire bullets at him today?
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Post by: SaSirEkha on June 01, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
someone thought he\'s crap who robbed his money and so he shot at this fake guru
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Post by: vhk on June 03, 2010, 08:10:41 PM
it can even be a way of hyp thru media cant say..
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Post by: JayTee on July 10, 2010, 07:47:38 PM
most of the politicians store their black  money with these fake swamis and gurus
these ashrams operate like mini banks where black money transactions are done between officials, contractors, politicians, movie stars and also flesh trade
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Post by: SaSirEkha on August 01, 2010, 10:32:15 AM
strangely people still believe those saffron clothed cheaters
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Post by: sonipravin on August 01, 2010, 05:15:18 PM
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Sasirekhaji,

Like attracts like. Those who are sinful and have done lots of wrong and earned money through dubious means are attracted to these fake babas. To find a true one is impossible for such men and for those who are truthful and honest and live a clean life have greatest chance of coming across true Saints whether they be in Saffron robes, or any cloth or even as a simple human being.

Pravin Kumar
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Post by: Sushma on January 30, 2011, 05:30:00 PM
yeah but those posts are about why would someone fire bullets if that guru was genuine
obviosuly someone detected that he\'s fake guru and caused some threat or damage to someone
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Post by: vhk on February 10, 2011, 03:12:35 PM
now no one talks about nityanandas past who had been to  jail booked in cases.he is now pumping about himself on devotional channels with his speech to his devotees saying \"people tried to do what all they wanted to defame me but no body can stop godly person like me... ..\" during his period in jail many news channels have shown his past by speaking to his mother, friends,relatives they also said like what he used to do from childhood to this stage like wandering freely without work in the streets.god help those innocent people who blindly follow these fake babas.
Title: what do people in india think of saibaba and guruji art of living ?
Post by: Virinchi on December 22, 2016, 04:39:45 AM
There will not be any KALKI avatar coming up.
You and me are Kalki online, in forums, social media etc.
This Kalki will fight against foreign funded benami media and bring out Truth !

So, any one person who says 'I'm Kalki bhagawan' is a FAKE !

Double or Triple Sri Ravi Shankar is also fake.. He never understood vedic religion.
He thinks Ayyappa is born out of gay intercourse.
Vishnu is molecules, Siva is electrons. They're not physical male humans